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I have now crossed Bitten off my to-read list and moved it to my read shelf. I enjoyed the book for the most part, but there were times where I wanted to throw the book across the room when Elena was whined a little too much about her human/werewolf problems.

I'm halfway through Outlander, but, to be quite honest, I'm not sure I'll end up finishing the book. The content is certainly interesting, but... boring? I don't know if that makes sense to anyone but me. There is also the fact that I'm not altogether comfortable with the nature of Claire's relationship with Jamie. There are aspects of their relationship post-marriage that seems to border on abuse? I don't know, I think what I'm really trying to get at is that Claire seems less... strong in the novel and moreso in the TV series. Take the scene from episode two(?) where she talks to Colum for the first time. Claire makes some scathing(awesome!) sarcastic crack asking when is rape ever appropriate and yet when I actually read that scene in the novel, there is no verbal or internal commentary regarding such things. I guess I'm disappointed is what it really boils down to. There is also the possibility that I just haven't reached the point where Claire and Jamie make some sort of resolution or realization of what's happening. Of course, I could also be reading too much into it and not reminding myself enough that it's 18th Century Scotland and England where a husband's wife is supposed to be obedient in all things.

Not sure what to finish next on my currently reading or on-hold shelf. I'm tempted to finally finish The Iron Wyrm Affair by Lilith Saintcrow because I'm like maybe one chapter from completing it. That book has been in play since 2012. Yes, I'm not kidding. 2012. It's taken me that fucking long to read the damn thing and that's a shame. I usually love reading Lilith's stuff, but this book, while interesting was all over the place and glaringly put her trust issues to the forefront. That kind of smacked of my problem with Laurel K. Hamilton and her Anita Blake series. At one point I dropped it because the sex was getting in the way of the plot in my opinion. When your main character, who has tried their damnedest to be moral, gives little consideration to having sex with a near stranger? That's when you know they have a fucking problem. In this case, it's literal. But I'm digressing.

My difficulty in consistently reading The Iron Wyrm Affair was that, overall, it felt like a novel that started in the middle of series already in play and not like a first novel. It didn't read like an introduction of a new universe and explained things and I was left struggling to understand what was going on most of the time. Saintcrow would use terms without explaining them very well, not at all, or not until later. Overall, I did enjoy the book, but it's... incohesiveness will not have me rushing out to get the next book in the series as much as I'd like to be excited about the prospect. And honestly... when it's come to Steampunk-oriented novels, Gail Carriger's Alexa Terribotti, Devon Monk's Age of Steam, and even Cassandra Clares's Infernal Devices series have done a better job at explanations of such things than Lilith did and that's just disappointing when she's done such a bang up job in bringing to life her previous universes. It was like she forgot she was writing the first in a series of novels and it made for a very frustrating read.

Date: 2014-10-25 06:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meicdon13
I haven't read the Outlander book so I can't really comment on that, but I've watched the TV series. I actually thought she got into a lot of trouble in the TV series because she kept forgetting that she was in 18th century Scotland — she kept acting like she would in modern times and making the dudebros (Scotsbros?) angry.

Date: 2014-10-25 05:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muladhara
I hated Bitten SO MUCH (mainly because whining, but also because of other issues and also I'm really picky about werewolf books). But if you enjoyed it, that's cool :)

Ha, your first comment about Outlander. My mum loves those books, but she's made similar complaints about the later ones she's read (including, I think, the most recent one). Also what you say about there being sketchy issues in the book is not wrong (I don't know myself, but I've read a lot of complaints doesn't improve afaik.).

Sex getting in the way of the plot is not the only problem with the Anita Blake books (it's not even well written! Although I'd still complain even if it was, because when there's more gratuitous sex than plot, you have a problem with your story) but, coincidentally, it's also the main reason I dropped the books, too.

Date: 2014-10-31 03:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muladhara
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that she taught as well. Explains a lot. Also I'm glad you said that about Tolkien, because I feel the same! (I also think he loved the sound of his own writing voice a bit too much). I managed LotR the first time, but I've tried twice to reread and just not been able to manage it (which is not to say there's not bits I like, cause there is, but I think I might skim read next time).

I've heard versions of that. And, I suppose, to some degree it's true BUT that doesn't mean that when someone brings up legit criticism, you shouldn't start stamping your feet about it. But then again, she doesn't employ an editor any more (and hasn't done for a fairly long time, as I understand it), probably because the editor will tell her stuff she doesn't want to hear.
Oh boy, this is making me miss the LKH comm on LJ. I wish they were on DW, too.
Edited (grammar fail) Date: 2014-10-31 03:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-11-05 07:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muladhara
As far as I know, yup, LKH has no editor. And yeah, she...I understand people saying the characters do things they don't expect (I've had it happen myself when I've written stuff), but she takes the biscuit acting like they're real (she buys presents for them! WTH). And you're right, it's a 100% creepy.

Date: 2014-11-08 06:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muladhara
Oh yeah. She's special, is LKH.

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